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Pumairl Lifetime member
Joined: 06 Nov 2006 Posts: 59 Location: Cork, Ireland
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:07 Post subject: |
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I only just read this thread, after putting on my bike rack on to the back of my LC last night (after taking off the spare wheel s/s cover and removing the rear wiper as it was stressed from the mounting bar that goes around the spare whell, then the straps that go behind the wheel don't cause the wheel is virtually flush) it fitted perfectly on my old pajero, after I had it on, I spotted that the front wheel of the bike would take the mirror off any car coming towards me , so just rotated the bike around.lol, now to see if it stays on now, oh and the door opens too.
On a side note, any on fitted a whip arial to their bullbar?
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nordic venture ***
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 193 Location: aberdeenshire
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 12:15 Post subject: |
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Pumairl wrote: |
I only just read this thread, after putting on my bike rack on to the back of my LC last night (after taking off the spare wheel s/s cover and removing the rear wiper as it was stressed from the mounting bar that goes around the spare whell, then the straps that go behind the wheel don't cause the wheel is virtually flush) it fitted perfectly on my old pajero, after I had it on, I spotted that the front wheel of the bike would take the mirror off any car coming towards me , so just rotated the bike around.lol, now to see if it stays on now, oh and the door opens too.
On a side note, any on fitted a whip arial to their bullbar?
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i would happily carry upto 2 bikes on a spare wheel mounted carrier (and have). its the thought (and weight) of 4 that bothers me. remembering that 4 cycles will stick out further and produce more leverage upon the spare wheel carrier and the combined weight of around 50 kg WILL play havoc with the door hinges. |
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Nor ****
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 330 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 20:57 Post subject: |
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Nordic Venture, I have the same problem, have to carrie 5 bikes, and there is no way the door hinges will take that weight and the weight of the bigger spare wheel.
I have build one earlier this week, painted it this afternoon and will fit the ratchet strap and rubbers to secure the bikes over the weekend.
The carrier piviots on a bracket thats bolted to the tow bar. When you lower the carrier with the bikes on , then you will be able to open the door about half way.
The carrier can split into sections, so easy to remove and store when not needed on a camping trip.
I will take some photos over the weekend which will give you a better idea of what I am on about.
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Also looking forward to the pix.
Just thinking about how to fit 5 bikes. Suppose it'll have to be roof or a small dedicated trailer.
Unless I can fab something to go on the hitch - as I said, pix/ideas are extremely welcome. _________________ 2004 HDJ100 AHC Auto 160'km, ex 2000 HDJ100, ex 1997 HZJ80GX Africa edition. |
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bushburywolf Lifetime member
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 242 Location: Wolverhampton West Midlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 0:18 Post subject: nor |
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only a 4 bike rack ..best i have seen so far...http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=4366&categoryID=782 _________________ 1999 Amazon Auto VX 4.2 TD Active |
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Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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dame Newbie
Joined: 21 Aug 2007 Posts: 9 Location: BARNSLEY
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:27 Post subject: bike carriers |
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funny you should post this, i've spent the last few weeks googling the same thing. i'm going to a specialist race bike shop in barnsley for a roof carrier this morning prior to hols next week. this basically fork mounts the bike onto roof bars and is supposedly well secure. forty quid a pop so if you want four of these including roof bars you're looking at over 200quid !
my dilemma is that i am generally towing the caravan when taking the bikes anywhere so looked at roof mounts rather than tow mounts due to issues with clearance.
any guesses on how fuel consumption will suffer?
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nordic venture ***
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 193 Location: aberdeenshire
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:59 Post subject: Re: nor |
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bushburywolf wrote: |
only a 4 bike rack ..best i have seen so far...http://www.cyclestore.co.uk/productDetails.asp?productID=4366&categoryID=782 |
thanks, but this is still a door mounted carrier although it avoids puting the weight onto the spare wheel. if in fact it'll fit over the wheel.
cheers. |
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nordic venture ***
Joined: 25 Sep 2007 Posts: 193 Location: aberdeenshire
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:03 Post subject: Re: bike carriers |
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dame wrote: |
funny you should post this, i've spent the last few weeks googling the same thing. i'm going to a specialist race bike shop in barnsley for a roof carrier this morning prior to hols next week. this basically fork mounts the bike onto roof bars and is supposedly well secure. forty quid a pop so if you want four of these including roof bars you're looking at over 200quid !
my dilemma is that i am generally towing the caravan when taking the bikes anywhere so looked at roof mounts rather than tow mounts due to issues with clearance.
any guesses on how fuel consumption will suffer?
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dame. if these are thule pro series then yes they are very secure and easy to use. i have 2!!!! and used to use them on the 'normal' car when i used to cycle race. on the landcruiser i sometimes use a roof box or carry a canoe.
thanks. |
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Nor ****
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 330 Location: Oslo, Norway
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 20:06 Post subject: |
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I am still eager to see your construction. All the pix are removed, it says.
nor _________________ 2004 HDJ100 AHC Auto 160'km, ex 2000 HDJ100, ex 1997 HZJ80GX Africa edition. |
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Bosvark ***
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 22:58 Post subject: |
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Hi, Nor
If you click on the links in my post it will open the photos don't know why it said it was removed.
Dame, I will be towing a trailer some times aswell. I thnk there is enough clearance cause the bikes sit failly high up. And if need be I can always make the vertical bar longer to over come this problem. The good thing about carrying the bikes on the back is that you don't have to worry about heigth restrictions eg trees, bridges, entrances to sites and I don't think it will have the same effect on your fuel economy as when the bikes are on the roof.
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Graham Smith ***
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 127 Location: Poole, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:42 Post subject: |
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Bosvark
Really neat job...
I also had a problem opening the photos...
Lets hope this link works...
Bosvark Cycle Carrier _________________ Graham.
www.sfo.me.uk
"Miranda":- 1994 HDJ80, Allisport Intercooler, Warn winch, ARB bullbar, OME suspension 6cm lift, Long Range tank, TJM Spare Wheel Carrier
"Dessie": Desert Wolf Lynx off-road trailer |
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Bosvark ***
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 20:33 Post subject: |
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Here is an update to the changes made to the bike carrier for the Colorado.
Nordic Venture asked if it was possible to modify the bike carries to drop down fully, so the rear door can be open completely.
So, after cutting off a few bits here and there and drill some more holes for pivot pins, I manage to get it to drop down with all the bikes on and open the rear door fully to have access to the boot or to be able to use the drop down table.
The only down side is that all the weight of all the bikes on the carrier will hang on the top tube of the largest bike on the carrier. Might have to fit two gas struts/linkages ( one end attached to the tow bar bracket and the other end to the vertical bar) to assist with the lowering.
You just have to be a bit careful when lowering the rack cause it weights quite a bit with all the bikes on it.
I had a trailer in tow and there was no problem, the bikes weren’t touching the trailer at any time during the trip and the road was quite bumpy and full of snaky bents.
After our trip it was evident we need more load capacity, so ordered some side extension for the trailer, but now I need to extend the vertical bar by 400mm to clear the trailer. |
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120man ***
Joined: 09 Jul 2006 Posts: 171
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 23:20 Post subject: |
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A very nice piece of work to get around a real problem. I put bikes on the roof with the Thule mountings where you take the front wheel off and the fork lugs then lock in. Otherwise a real PITA.
However, looking at it you might want to get tape measure out and consider this:
"A vehicle which carries a load or equipment which projects beyond the rear of the vehicle or, in the case of a combination of vehicles, beyond the rear of the rearmost vehicle in the combination, more than-
(a) 2 m in the case of an agricultural vehicle or a vehicle carrying a fire escape; or
(b) 1 m in the case of any other vehicle."
If so:
"An additional rear lamp capable of showing red light to the rear and a red reflecting device, both of which are visible from a reasonable distance, shall be fitted to the vehicle or the load in such a position that the distance between the lamp and the reflecting device, and the rearmost projection of the load or equipment does not exceed 2m in the case mentioned in sub-paragraph (a) in column 2 of this item or 1 m in any other case. The installation and performance requirements relating to rear position lamps do not apply to any such additional lamp."
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_3.htm |
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armstrong75 **
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 6:17 Post subject: |
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You can get away with using a Fiamma board, I use one for the bike rack on the rear of my caravan and most Continental motorhomers and caravanners use them.
http://www.agentfiamma.co.uk/erol.html#363x0
See ALU-Signal or Plastic Signal under Carry Bike accessories.
Provided that your lights and number plate are not obscured. |
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Bosvark ***
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 169 Location: High Peak
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Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 19:34 Post subject: |
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The top bar on which the cyclels are carried is 800mm long( thas carring 5 bikes) and the total distance from the rear window to the end of the top bar is 1150mm, when I'm not pulling the trailer I just hook a Light Board on. |
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