The Toyota Landcruiser Owners Club

[prado13]

Still having major problems with identification and insurance . None of the brokers I have spoken with seem to have much knowledge at all (They seem all to be sales people and guessing ! unimpressed) My vehicle is a KZJ78 . Firstly Is this the actual model ? Also I understand under the frame specification it is either a KZJ78 G  or a KZJ78 W. I'm guessing that G maybe short wheel base and W long wheel base  Anyone know what these letters mean? Help!

[warthog]

Look at the VIN plate for the model; it is probably KZJ78W-PET. There are no short KZJ78s. Tell your insurer (you can find some on this site) that it is a 3litre landcruiser and the year of manufacture. The insurer should come up with a suitable answer.
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peterB

[prado13]

[molotovmike]

Just a minor point that I had with an insurance company arguement in the past when I had described a Triumph Herald as a 1360 and they wanted to change me extra for modifying the engine from its previous notification of 1296 cc. It took me ages to explain that 13/60 as I should have written actually meant 1300cc 60 hp and was not the cc.
How is this relevent to Landcruisers I hear you all saying:-
Landcruisers use 2 basic engines since the mid 80's
A  2L and 2LT or its evolutions 2LTE etc now its easy to think this means 2 Litre but it does not. The capacity is 2400 cc approx 2446 cc from memory.
The 3L engines which most people seem to refer to as 3 litres are actually 2800 cc approx (correct me if I am wrong please) The 3L is just Toyota's reference and means nothing more than say Ford's Zetec engine designation. You may !! just save a few pennies IF Insuances are biassed on engine capacities.
I hope this is helpful

[roscoFJ73]

The exact model is a KZJ78 which means it has the 1KZ T  3 litre turbo diesel engine in a 4 dr 78 series body

G means luxury model wagon

P is possibly automatic 4 sp

E is VX  trim

Im not sure about the rest but I suspect some of the letters are missing. What does the aluminium plate on the firewall say?
The last letter is the intended destination W for Europe ,Y for Japan or S for standard which means it could go anywhere it doesn't need to comply with local laws(UN for example)

Anyway,KZJ78 is all the insurance company needs to know
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1988 FJ73 with 1HZ diesel conversion.SOLD
1995 HZJ75  cab chassis
Holden Commodore V6
Honda XR650L SOLD
1988 HJ61 turbo diesel with windas that slide SOLD
Triumph Rocket3 08 with Jardines and Tuneboy

[warthog]

It's the 1kzte engine, same as the colorado/90 series that replaced the kzj78 in about May 1996. My MOT man calls it a "pre-colorado" and it is called colorado on the certificate! Unfortunately for the British, the 78 was not imported; the 90 was and was called Colorado. My insurance company (Highway, through 2getherinsurance.com) call the vehicle a Toyota Landcruiser II VX TD estate car/station wagon. About £200 fully comp. I hope this helps,
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peterB

[prado13]

Thanks molotovmike,  rosco and warthog for your replies. I appreciate the info.  I now have an update and the model on the firewall say's Y-KZJ78W-RET.

Further,  phoned a broker on Friday ( I was referred to them  because apently they deal with imports and 4 x 4. ) Yep, everything seemed  no ploblem , took all the details exactly as I explained . I paid by credit card and cover note and proposal form was in the post . Interesting what you say Warthog because the insurer is also Highways insurance but my premium was £381 and not £200 that you paid !. Anyway, true to their word the cover note and proposal forms arrived yesterday morning. Great, but as you mention in your discription Warthog and as also the discription on my proposal form it is not a Landcruiser prado KZJ78 auto but the discription reads  Toyota Landcruiser 11 VX td car/estate  manual not auto !  As far as I understand the british market of this model is called a Landcruiser 11 VX but as far as I am aware the british market model is only in swb form and  manual and not lwb form and auto.  Life can be a bit of a shit sometimes and in the past I've experieced problems of wrong info so really all I  want is to have the info on the policy right because I don't want any agro if I ever come to make a claim.  I might be splitting hairs here but if I sign this proposal form I'm signing to the wrong info. I appreciate probable no problems but in my experience if a claim is made sure as eggs are eggs shit will start to happen.  The bottom line is its the wrong vehicle discription. Has anyone got the right info on their policy ?

[molotovmike]

Just make sure that you tell your Insurance company all these things and keep a copy of the letter/ poposal, In 6 years time when they try to charge you for changes you can refer back to it and they will have to accept that they had been notified. Telephone calls are recorded but I would prefer a hard copy as you do not have access tp the recording and they may have a time limit on retention. But emphasise that these are NOT modifications or they will want Engineers reports etc.

[roscoFJ73]

[roscoFJ73]

[prado13]

[prado13]

[roscoFJ73]

I don't think yours has an electronic controlled fuel pump. Its just a plain old Denso rotary pump ,a smaller brother of the  6 cyl types and are fairly reliable.

The body chassis diagrams for the KZJ78 should be much the same as other 7* series year for year.Look under PZJ/HZJ75,73,76,70.They use the same mirrors ,sun roof and dash. There are free downloads around but lately they haven't been working too well.Aussie e bay has bargains from time to time
The engine manual is a little harder to find but the engine was also used in the Dyna and Hiace
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1988 FJ73 with 1HZ diesel conversion.SOLD
1995 HZJ75  cab chassis
Holden Commodore V6
Honda XR650L SOLD
1988 HJ61 turbo diesel with windas that slide SOLD
Triumph Rocket3 08 with Jardines and Tuneboy

[prado13]

[warthog]

Hey RoscoFJ73 - my KZJ78W definitely has a KZTE, as have the other 2 I have seen in UK. Mine is Nov 1995 manufacture - perhaps the early ones, 1993 on, had the KZT or those for WA didn't get the KZTE. Watch out for these boomers - I hear they get big there!
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peterB