The Toyota Landcruiser Owners Club

greg · * Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 27 Location: Glencoe

Just out of curiosity and boredom , i had a look at a couple of the land rover forums covering disco 3's and RR sports , looking at the low mileage fairly new vehicles and the issues the owners are experiencing is shocking , it is mind boggling that anyone is daft enough ....or rich enough to run these vehicles . Also a lot of the faults seem to take the so called LR garages many visits to the workshops to diagnose and repair. This implies to me that the vehicle control software and diagnostic soft ware are the easiest to master. I also read that a clutch and rear cambelt can be a lift the body off job , this seems ridiculous. The main dealer support seems very variable over the country also.
My 80 series is getting a bit long in the tooth and ive been thinking of a change to update i'll be moving into the realms of modern motoring with more complex ecu's etc and less you can do yourself , i thought about a disco 3 and just purchase the diagnostic software to enable me to work on the thing without the garage visits , looking at thier reliability i think it would pay for itself within the year!
But alas i cant force myself to part with 20 k or whatever on a vehicle that doesnt work so the 80 series will stay in service for a while yet - and every time i feel the lure of a plush looking disco or RR i'll just have another look at the forums to bring the reality back that the old cruiser is hard to beat !!
cheers
greg

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geordie_boy1978 · ** Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 89 Location: st helens

Well looks like the old adage strikes again.

If you want to go into the desert, take a Land Rover
If you want to get home again, take a Land Cruiser Laughing

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geordie_boy1978 · ** Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 89 Location: st helens

The saying go's by land Rover's OWN admission

"80 % of all the Land Rovers ever made are still on the road today"

So that means that if 80% are still on the road,

Then logic says the other 20 % actually "MADE IT HOME" Laughing

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trooperman · **** Joined: 03 May 2010 Posts: 260 Location: Rotherham

My Uncle's just ordered a new Defender after years of Jap 4x4 ownership, they've all had a hard life, he's a landscaper by trade so always pulling a trailer, be interesting to see how the LR gets on

roscoFJ73

uk_vette · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:33 Post subject:

Huw · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:22 Post subject:

There are a lot of both brands out there and I would be happy with either. Even though I've had the LC100 since new in 1998, in the meantime I've also had a MercedesML, BMWX5, Range Rover 3.0 diesel and my current Audi Q7. All good vehicles and reliable.
I would go as far as to say that the 2004 Range Rover was the best built and most reliable vehicle I ever had from new to 35,000 miles. However I am under no illusion that this record would have lasted until today as the front diff issue was overdue on it, but LR have modified all vehicles since then.
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1998 100 series diesel 1HD-FTE with about 170,000 miles and counting. Active suspension.
Pioneer touchscreen sat-nav and entertainment system fitted.

mike the pipe · ** Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Posts: 96 Location: east sussex

Lr and LC there is no contest. Any way the Australians working in the out back said the LR`s fell to bits,they were *beep*, the Cruisers lasted a life time in and out of the mines. Not only that, the U.N. only select Landcruisers due to their reliability, nothing else comes close.

roscoFJ73 · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:16 Post subject:

marlot · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:36 Post subject:

The LR fans tell me the Discovery4 reliability is looking good. But they said that about the Disco3 when that was new-ish too.

I see the Freelander2 reliability seems to be OK.

I think the LRs have just too much technology rammed in there for long-term reliability. So for example, I see the new 8-speed gearbox has a rotary selector which rises up out of the central console when you start the engine - that sounds like a recipe for disaster.

roscoFJ73 · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 13:59 Post subject:

marlot · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 17:11 Post subject:

There is no doubt that the driving seat of the latest LRs is a very nice place to be. And the handling is good. I could be very tempted next time around if they really have cracked the reliability problems with the Disco 4. I'll have to wait and see!

munster · ** Joined: 09 Jan 2011 Posts: 114 Location: Cheshire uk

There would always be that nagging dout in the back of your mind that it wont get you home Rolling Eyes

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wobbly · Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 19:25 Post subject:

We've done 24000 miles in the wifes Disco 4, its 2 years old in March.

100% reliable, only problem I have is the 4 feral children who inhabit the back end, make Stig look tidy...

I love my LC, as long as the head doesnt crack and the rad doesnt leak into the gearbox it should last for ages yet....

I reckon the D3 had issues, but a 2nd hand 55/56 plate can be had for about £15,000 now, lot of car for the cash. Lot of cash for repairs if its a bad'un though.

Defender - no way on gods earth would I volunteer to go in one again, the single most uncomfortable car I've ever been in, and trust me, I've owned some cr*p cars in my youth !

Pete

fat neil · * Joined: 23 Dec 2010 Posts: 37 Location: sutherland

Had to attend an RTC in which a disco went off a cliff after the driver had suffered a fit.
All credit to the disco......it plunged 130 feet landing on the tailgate and nose as it went end over end.
The driver was fine, the passenger compartment was perfect and all the doors opened as though nothing had happened.
Mighty impressive.

i like the look of the Disco 3 & 4, I would love to buy British but doubts still exist and until it's proven to be bomb proof, I'll stick with my 80 series !