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simon_basi *
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 0:29 Post subject: What is the real MPG of Amazon 4.7 V8 VX? |
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Dear all,
What is the real MPG of Amazon 4.7 V8 VX?
I am told it is 10-17mpg? is this true??
The car will mostly be used around Wolverhampton in rush hour.
Please advise. |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 18:51 Post subject: |
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Around 12 if your lucky.
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simon_basi *
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 1:18 Post subject: |
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If I'm light on the accelerator, surely I should be be able to achieve 17??
Is this not realistic? |
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armstrong75 **
Joined: 19 Sep 2006 Posts: 88 Location: Milton Keynes
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:07 Post subject: |
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Simon,
I think that you are trying to convince yourself to buy one! |
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simon_basi *
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 17:22 Post subject: |
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are these hard to seel on if found to be thirsty for one's pocket? |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 18:57 Post subject: |
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Winter's coming so you will be getting even less than the 12 mpg i said in my other post i suspect you can knock off another 2-3 mpg. If your concerned about economy now it sounds to me this ain't the car for you.
No offence intended.
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amazonbee *
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 15 Location: London
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 22:01 Post subject: |
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i'd suggest converting to lpg and enjoying the vehicle - diesel may be an option if you're concerned about mpg, but i dont know this to be the case.
they really are nice vehicles - had a colorado for 5yrs this is the 'bigger brother'. |
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imprator *
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 43
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 20:14 Post subject: |
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12 mpg, or 9/10 mpg in winter? That's a little pessimistic.
My experience (I have run a 1999 4.7 VX for the last four years and 60,000 miles) is that I average about 17.5 mpg in mixed driving.
Personally I would never buy the diesel version as a used car. The petrol engine is just so much more pleasant - and much cheaper to buy. It's also less hassle (the diesels require oil changes at 4,500 mile intervals), usually has more equipment (petrol versions get items years in advance of the diesels, and sometimes the diesels just never catch up) and costs less to maintain (top ends and turbos can need attention on diesels with higher miles). Just make sure that the petrol engined versions have been regularly serviced.
If mpg is really important you can have a petrol version converted to lpg and run it at the equivalent of about 35 mpg in terms of cost. This is what I did and I have no regrets.
I am currently looking for a 2005 Amazon to buy, and once again this will be petrol. At this age the petrol version is £6,000 - £7,000 less than the diesel. It's a huge bargain. (Thank you to all the diesel fans and petrol-fearing buyers out there!)
Just my opinion. |
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simon_basi *
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 21:16 Post subject: |
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I have just purchased a V reg 4.7 V8 - oh my god it is amazing.
however it does have some missing history. The stamps aren't in the book from 30k to 60k (40k and 50k missing) (current mileage 95k).
I note you said service history is very important with petrol versions - am I going to run into problems - and if so what sort of problems?
Thanks, |
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imprator *
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 13:25 Post subject: |
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Sorry, I don't have any special knowledge here. I was only repeating what I have heard from several different sources who should know. The comment was that these engines are particularly prone to accelerated wear if not serviced regularly. I would presume that this relates to not replacing the oil.
Of course, the absence of stamps in the service book doesn't necessarily mean that important work (such as oil changes) was not carried out - perhaps by an enthusiastic owner? Regardless, I certainly wouldn't want you to be concerned by the comments of someone who really doesn't know much about the subject (i.e. myself). My guess is that if the car doesn't use excessive amounts of oil between service intervals you should be fine.
I would also add that my car went for 20,000 miles without a service at about the same mileage as your own missing service stamps (to my shame this was during my ownership) but runs and drives like a new car at 94,000 miles, and never needs to be topped up with oil between services.
Nice to hear that you are enjoying your car. They are certainly a nicer vehicle than the diesel, and overall the best 4x4 you can buy in my opinion - and I have tried all the top-end 4x4's except the Porsche Cayenne.
Welcome to the thirsty club. It's a nice place to be! |
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realspeed **
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 52 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 15:48 Post subject: |
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I think imprator has the figures wrong quote "(the diesels require oil changes at 4,500 mile intervals)" unquote
The earlier diesels service interval was 6000 miles and the new version is every 10,000 miles. I have had the earlier vx and now the latest versions Amazon.
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realspeed **
Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 52 Location: West Midlands
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Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 16:08 Post subject: |
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Go for diesel every time, more pulling power, cheaper on fuel ( I get 24mpg local and 30/34mpg motorway driving) if towing a caravan the sheer grunt of a diesel engine beats a petrol hands down. Resale value is also a lot higher, try selling a petrol version privately.
Ok a diesel may take a little longer to warm up but once warm its quiet enough for the average motorist .
Unless you want to tow a petrol tanker behind you I cannot see any point of buying petrol version unless you have limitlessly deep pockets.
I am on my 3rd Landcruiser the current one being just 2 yrs old. As to equipment i am having difficulty thinking of what else it could have.
With bluetooth-voice activation-sat nav- reversing camera-climate control ride adjustment-height adjustment- etc etc, apart from the mechanical lockups, traction control, abs and so forth
The only thing Toyota should add is better headlights as the ones provided are not really powerfull enough xenons should be fitted, and that is my only gripe, but there are specialists who can install better lighting if required.
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FrankyJ Newbie
Joined: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 2 Location: wOLVERHAMPTON uk
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 9:01 Post subject: What is the real MPG of Amazon 4.7 V8 VX? |
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Having had both petrol and diesel i much prefer the petrol version and miss it. Yes is sucks juice like no tomorrow but beautiful to drive. I have the diesel now - and around Wolves i dont find the fuel consumption that different to the old V8. If you can afford it buy the petrol. I had no difficulty re-selling. But it will depreciate like your fuel guage!!!! |
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imprator *
Joined: 10 Aug 2003 Posts: 43
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Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 16:13 Post subject: |
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realspeed wrote: |
I think imprator has the figures wrong quote "(the diesels require oil changes at 4,500 mile intervals)" unquote
The earlier diesels service interval was 6000 miles and the new version is every 10,000 miles. I have had the earlier vx and now the latest versions Amazon.
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Yes, the recommended service intervals have been progressively ramped up since the 100's introduction. However, the intervals for the earliest models were 9,000 miles for all vehicles, plus an interim service for the diesel at 4,500 mile intervals.
My service book, for a 1999 vehicle, has these intervals and I suspect that simon_basi's V-reg. vehicle (to whose posting I was responding) will be the same - but I could be wrong about that. |
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simon_basi *
Joined: 06 Oct 2006 Posts: 40 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 19:52 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that. I've had mines a week now and where my previous car (BMW 525) took £50 per week in general driving, the Amazon V8 seems to use £90 - however it is a premium I am increasingly willing to pay. Just had the windows tinted dark and wheels balanced - soam pretty happy with it.
Having run it for a week I think it is doing between 15-16mpg. |
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