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rmurphy5 **
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 98
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:13 Post subject: ATF change |
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Hi Guys,
I have seen people talk about changing the fluid on here by disconnecting the rad hoses - this seems quite a good idea but if i just want to change as much as possible without doing this what is my best bet? Drain from the sump plug - refill and then after a drive do so again? I have ten litres of ATF fluid and the handbook said it needs 6 litres?
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Rohan |
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joinerman *******
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 Posts: 2200 Location: Here & there
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:18 Post subject: |
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About 6 litres will come out of the sump pan, try & drain into something you can measure the quantity fairley accurantly so you can put the same back, drive it for a few days & repeat a couple of times if you get my drift lol |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:19 Post subject: |
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About 6 litres will come out of the sump pan, try & drain into something you can measure the quantity fairley accurantly so you can put the same back, drive it for a few days & repeat a couple of times if you get my drift lol |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:21 Post subject: |
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Sorry about the duplicat post, twas not me twas tinternet being silly b****s |
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rmurphy5 **
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 98
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:44 Post subject: |
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Hi Joinerman,
I will do that then. Was tempted to have a look at the filter but think I will leave it alone.
Any idea if either of the differentials on a 1999 4.2 td 100 vx - uk car are limited slip?
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Rohan |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 19:49 Post subject: |
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Not sure on the diffs, iv'e got an 80 series, i think the box will be the same as mine, ie no filter to change, it has a screen in it which self cleans when you drain the atf |
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jvoelcker *******
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1039 Location: Nr Ledbury, Herefordshire. UK
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Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 23:30 Post subject: |
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rmurphy5 wrote: |
Any idea if either of the differentials on a 1999 4.2 td 100 vx - uk car are limited slip? |
Your rear diff should be a standard locking diff and the front one an open one, so no LSDs. _________________ Cheers,
Julian
1994 HDJ80, with loads of mods without looking too obscene
1997 KZJ95 - Gilly's - plain black and muddy on BFG ATs. |
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rmurphy5 **
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 20:43 Post subject: |
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Thanks for that - very helpful.
I changed the ATF via draining the sump and refilling - I will do so again shortly.
The torque converter symptoms seem worse now! I also greased up the UJ's and the sliding section. They took a good bit of grease.
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Rohan |
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joinerman *******
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 20:57 Post subject: |
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Hope you didn't put two much in the slip yoke!!!!!, if you start getting vibrations then you have. |
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rmurphy5 **
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 21:11 Post subject: |
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Joiner - of course I have!
Havent been on the motorway yet but I filled it up - guess if i do I will need to take out the nipple and put her in the low position? |
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jvoelcker *******
Joined: 21 May 2004 Posts: 1039 Location: Nr Ledbury, Herefordshire. UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 23:29 Post subject: |
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rmurphy5 wrote: |
The torque converter symptoms seem worse now! |
What was the oil like that came out? _________________ Cheers,
Julian
1994 HDJ80, with loads of mods without looking too obscene
1997 KZJ95 - Gilly's - plain black and muddy on BFG ATs. |
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rmurphy5 **
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:26 Post subject: |
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It smelled a bit burnt but looked ok and the consistency seemed fine, perhaps a bit of a run will help. |
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Wandering Willy *******
Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 1016 Location: Norfolk
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 13:33 Post subject: |
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When I was looking for my first Land Cruiser about 2 years ago I decided I would get an automatic. This would be a big change for me as I have always stuck to manual gearbox cars.
One of my concerns was this business of changing the fluid. On a 100 series, draining the sump removes about half of the old stuff (I don't know the exact figure). A lot stays in the torque converter.
I read that in the USA, it is possible to go to a garage specialising in transmissions. They would be able to pump clean fluid round the transmission which not only removes the old stuff but actually flushes out a lot of the muck coating the insides of the transmission, pipes and valves. This might requires several changes of fluid but results in the hydraulic system operating the gear changes and the brake bands working a lot better ("like a new transmission!").
I then looked for a company in the UK offering this service and came up with nothing, no-one, zip, nadir.
The best that was suggested was this idea of draining off the fluid from the cooler hose and topping up as you do. This looks a lot better than nothing but still a fair way from the mechanical flushing approach.
I mention this here in the hope that someone will be able to suggest a transmission specialist or even (shock, horror) a Toyota dealer who is doing this sort of work.
When I asked dealers round here, they had no idea what I was talking about!
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smokeyjoe **
Joined: 14 Dec 2008 Posts: 50 Location: Herts
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 14:10 Post subject: |
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Be careful & think twice before you chnage your fluid.
See http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/faq.html#a2
Brief summary is
We have noticed many customers reporting this fault starting a few days after an oil and filter change and after researching this using our experience and the expertise of others in the trade we have come to the conclusion that as ATF oil is a detergent type oil, when the oil is changed this will dislodge and stir up settled debris in the autobox which in turn jams the governor valve. In light of this although it sounds controversial it is debateable if changing the oil and filter is a good idea, some say if the box it going to fail it will fail if the oil is good or bad and their advice is leave it alone. I am still undecided but the truth is I get a lot of calls from customers thinking they are looking after the autobox by servicing it and a few days later this fault occurs.
Anyone who knows Land Rovers will know Ascrofts, so although it may sound stange it is worth bearing in mind. |
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Leslie ***
Joined: 11 Mar 2007 Posts: 157 Location: Highlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 23:48 Post subject: |
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The transmission flush is easy to do your self .
Drain trans sump and fill to cold level on dip stick .
Disconnect return pipe to trans , after cooler .
Start engine . Trans in park
Run this fluid into measure jug .
Stop engine and top up through dipstick tube same amount as drained out.
Keep this up until you have changed your 12 litres or what ever you need .
Run up the road to warm trans .
Leave ticking over foot on brake run through gears , into park still ticking over top up to hot level on dip stick .
Send me check for £80 |
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