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Pugwash ****
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:13 Post subject: Winch and Recovery Training |
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Spurred by a thread in the 80-series bit, who would be interested in a days recovery and winch training?
Not to run it myself as i'm only LANTRA qualified, but know 2 highly qualified and respected instructors both who are LANTRA and BORDA qualified.
Maybe to cover (and this is only my thoughts):
Recovery planning- where, how, who, signals, control, calculations of drag, how to ensure safety and areas of concern.
Static v Dynamic recoveries- when to use a snatch etc
Hi-lift- Basic safe use, use as a winch, use as a cast, etc etc
Rigging- Double and triple line pulls, tree rigs, ground anchors (pin and shovel), spreading load on vehicles
Hand Winches- Proper use of a tirfor (how to setup), winch in and out.
Powered self-recovery Winches- Use of, Safety (winch blankets etc), maintenance, string management, power management (either electric or hydraulic)
No idea on costs but not a huge amount i would have thought- hopefully somewhere reasonablly accessible to anyone involved.
Could probably arrange for most of the kit to be supplied if you don't have your own.
Any interest? |
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Pugwash ****
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:14 Post subject: |
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To add:
This would be aimed at both newcomes to recovery and those with experience- it will also be of interest to those who use winches alot but have never had formal training. |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:16 Post subject: |
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Count me in _________________ 1995 4.2 80 Series VX 24 valve, manual. 285/75 - 16 BFG Muds, Ironman +2", TJM Winch Bumper with T-Max Winch, Safari Snorkel, Superpro poly bush kit.
SOLD TO AFRICA
100 Series now on the drive |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:25 Post subject: |
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I'd be very interested in this - I have none of the kit beyond shackles and straps though but I'm very keen to learn all about this "art"!
Beyond digging, pulling with brute force and inept use of a hi-lift, I have no experience in this area
Cheers, _________________ Andrew
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:30 Post subject: |
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I'm keen too. Would this be a formal bit of training, leading to a qualification, or simply some training to stop us killing ourselves, and each other
Where, and what sort of cost? _________________ I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:33 Post subject: |
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I'd be interested, some proper training would be very helpful. _________________ Jon m0zxj
01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:10 Post subject: |
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Im up for this as well, should be informative. _________________ Rob
97 HDJ80 Manual, Safari snorkel, 33" BFG AT, Wildsmith sliders, lift coming soon... to find out if I got that lift or made it Mongolia use a search engine ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:16 Post subject: |
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Can I be the one who gets stuck? I can show you how that bit's done!
C _________________ HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!) |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:27 Post subject: |
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Can I be the one who gets stuck? I can show you how that bit's done!
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01 UZJ100 lifted (AHC & 40mm BL), ARB locked f&r, cryo'd 4.88's, TJM front bumper, 12k goldfish, sliders, rack, snorkel, 35's, storage, aux power etc.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 11:28 Post subject: |
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Actually, I reckon a section on ground anchors would be useful too.
C _________________ HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!) |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:11 Post subject: |
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Yep - how to make sure the ground anchor table is level.
Or did you mean towing an off-road trailer through a desert?
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:42 Post subject: |
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Smart @rse!
Remembering to take the anchor with you would be a start actually.
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 15:34 Post subject: |
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Count me in _________________ HDJ80, BFG AT's, grooved discs, OME 850/860's |
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 16:14 Post subject: |
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I might very well be interested as well |
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Pugwash ****
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 16:25 Post subject: |
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at the moment this would be entirely informal training- it would NOT lead to LANTRA or BORDA qualifications but would be based on their training.
I figured the idea would be to have an entirely hands on session, so learning stuff that will be helfpful for the sort of offroading we do (expeditions, green laning, possibly competitive use) etc etc rather than the priority being risk assessments etc (safety will obvious be critical, but i'm sure you all know what i mean).
Groundanchors would definitely be covered- Pins, Spades, improvisation etc.
No idea on cost yet, depends on whether we have to rent land or not, and whether my club insurance can cover the event! Also depends on cost of instructor
I would hope it would be around the £30/person for the day, is this a reasonably figure? it does depend on the uptake though! |
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