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[bigyun]

Hi all,
Not really a post just venting my frustration on today's project. Well after some delay I decided to do the wishbone bushes today, ordered the bushes from Milners and got myself a lovely 6 ton press...(nice bit of tool porn there me thinks  )  so figured that I was all ready to go.

So I jacked the truck up took the wheel off and commenced battle. The strut bolt came undone no trouble (just fitted OME suspension) and that was the only bit that went well from then on it went down hill rapidly. I decided that I would do the drop link for the anti roll bar next, I noticed that it was not in good condition so got the WD squirty and gave it good dowsing. I cleaned the threads best I could and gently does it............SNAP   .........Phone call to Milners order new.

Next was the track rod end, cleaned the nut had to drill the split pin out and it was then that the nut decided that it was not going to stay in one piece and more or less fell apart taking some of the threaded bar with it   ...........Another call to Milners, order new track rod end and new nut.  

Now it is time for the bushes themselves, the rear most bolt and cam came apart with no trouble, which was a much needed pep up as I was feeling quite dejected by now. So with a new spring in my step I attacked the forward one. The bolt came undone lovely.......and.......that was end of my happiness. The cam had seized to the bush so out with the hot spanners, pullers and hammers and after hours of persuading it still has a firm hold of the bush and the pressure fitted end fell off. So now it is out with the mini grinder and try get it apart that way.............Yep you guessed it another phone call this time to Toyota for some new cams, And bless their cottons they are overnighting them to me.

My truck is now on the drive in bits and the b****y wish bone is still bushless and I still have not used the press

Bigyun
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98 Colorado, LWB, OME suspension 40 mm lift, Safari snorkel, ASFIR belly plates. TBR winch mount with Warn M8000 winch

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[aroscow]

Well, hopefully after all that bad luck you should be getting a boat load full of good luck to speed you to the finish.

Thoughts are with you.
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HDJ80, BFG AT's, grooved discs, OME 850/860's

[Tommo&Claire]

Don't tell me that mate!

Have just taken delivery of front and rear anti roll bar bushes and steering rack bushes.  was hoping to do it over xmas and it be an easy job.....
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Tommo

2002 95 Series LC 3.0D4D, Grabber AT2s, Safari Snorkel.
1998 90 Series LC 3.0TD for Mrs T
2007 Rottweiler.

[Landcrusher]

Nah, different job altogether. You can get the ARB bushes off ok even if you cut them in half. The place to be careful is on the stirrup brackets on the AR bar itself. You MUST prep them or they will simply snap. They are a captive nut one side and a captive stud on the other. A real pain if you snap them off. The time that you will spend on prep is nothing compared to how long you will spend sorting the mess if you get it wrong. Steering bushes fairly easy.

C
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HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!)

[leon]

when i did mine i was giving them a blast with WD40 for a the week running up to the weekend of the job  
my drop link bush,s were totaly shot but again with the WD and they came off fine I,v  LC amazon about the same age  ...think you just been very unlucky .....or heavy handed (me runs off to hide )
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Should I have these bit's left over ?
1998 V8 LC Amazon VX work in progress
2008 pug boy
2009 pug boy
2010 pug girl
         ^ dogs

[bigyun]

Thanks guys that was much appreciated.

Tomo yours is a different job altogether not that bad to do at all. The only bolts and nuts to watch for on that job are the ones that hold the roll bar to the chassis as they are only little 10 mm ones, so get soaking with the old WD squirty now. And as I found out watch for the drop link. If all else fails new ones from Milners are dirt cheap and mine arrived today so nice and quick delivery.

As for being heavy handed well there are times that you look at a bolt or nut and you know that no matter how much heat, WD 40 or anything you do is going to free it off...... but you still try

Well I finally managed to get the lower wish bone out and pressed the new bushes home.....the new press didn't even wince  . I have to say I have never seen so much rust and crud in one place........hang on, yes I have, my rear diff lock Removing the old bushes was fun, I opted for two pronged aproach. First off I burnt the rubber out with a blow touch.....tip here make sure you have a metal bucket with a bit of water in it as the rubber once it starts burning will not stop. The burning makes the rubber go brittle and just falls away from the metal. So this gets rid of everything except the bush outer so whilst the metal is hot I get the power hacksaw out and cut two slots about 10mm apart in the outer, just deep enough to cut through the outer bush but not deep enough to cut the bush housing. This was easily gauged with mine as it was so rusty I got a lovely plume of rust coloured dust as I cut through the outer bush   . With the slots cut it was out with the hammer and chisel and persuade the 10mm strip out, even with this done you would of thought the rest should just drop out. No not a chance the rust still had firm hold of it so after a few more mins of thwacking it let go. I can hear you all now shouting why didn't I press the old bushes out with that nice new press........ unfortunately due to the design there is a lip on the bush outer which is wider than the outside diameter of the housing, this means that you have nothing to push against or support.


Any road up the new bushes are fitted and the wish bone is loosely fitted ready for torquing up tomorrow in day light......yipee.

Will put some piccies here tomorrow.

Bigyun
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98 Colorado, LWB, OME suspension 40 mm lift, Safari snorkel, ASFIR belly plates. TBR winch mount with Warn M8000 winch

[Landcrusher]

Wait til you do your trailing arms! Those little suckers just do not want to come out. I would suggest finding someone locally who can blast the control rods clean once you have the bushes out. I did mine myself. Everything including me was covers in a fine dust that simply got everywhere. Two minute in the blast cabinet would have sorted it.

C
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HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!)

[leon]

I got a puntch banged the eges of the old bush cups over to the middle... drop of WD40 had a cup-o-tea hit them with a hammer and they were out 5-10 mins a bush and 4 cups of tea  
as i had a 15 ton press on my top arm bush,s and they wouldnt move the arm started to buckle and twist  
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Should I have these bit's left over ?
1998 V8 LC Amazon VX work in progress
2008 pug boy
2009 pug boy
2010 pug girl
         ^ dogs

[bigyun]

As promised here are some piccys of the new bushes.













And I also found what my knocking noise was at Lincome



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98 Colorado, LWB, OME suspension 40 mm lift, Safari snorkel, ASFIR belly plates. TBR winch mount with Warn M8000 winch

[Landcrusher]

Hey Big Fella, I was reviewing this old thread thinking that my thunking noise might be related to lower wishbone bushes. Realised that you didn't actually say why you decided to replace the bushes. It sounded like a t*** of a job. You never said if there a tangible benefit at the end of it. I don't think that there i any wear in my now that I have had a wiggle and jiggle but something that must need replacing at some point I suppose. You marked the cams - was everything bang on when you put it back together again or did you need a full geometry alignment afterwards?

C
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HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!)

[bigyun]

[Landcrusher]

Ahh. I have a very good local tyre place that has compooter geo tackle. I may drop in on them and ask if they can do this job, before I get the hammer out.

Thanks for that BY

LC
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HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!)

[PtP]

I've just picked up on this thread and I was wondering if there is any merit in replacing the drop link to the anti-roll bar with a disconnect system similar to these below? Would this increase the articulation much whilst off-road? I have them fitted to the front of my Jeep and they allow the front axle to drop and flex to the full limits and it significantly improves the off-road ability.

[PtP]

Just another quick one!

Has anyone ever used or heard of PB Blaster? It's similar to WD40, but it's reputation is miles better at freeing rusted nuts and bolts etc. I've never used it, but there are a few in the Jeep world who swear by it.



Just search the US e bay site.
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Peter
100 Series 2003 VX Diesel Automatic

[Landcrusher]

Looked at sway disconnects before Peter. Limited value on an IFS as it's ultimately the CV joint that restricts the movement and the wishbone hits the spring too. I have fitted longer (1") links and that gives about as much as you are going to get. If you can get a diff drop AND an upper ball joint drop kit in there then it might be worth having a disconnecter in there. But it's a lot of effort. Better to simply fit taller tyres on a 90.

C
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HDJ 80 but still a 90 owner at heart (yeah right!)