The Toyota Landcruiser Owners Club

[realspeed]

Hi Amazonmark

You live not too far from me I am just north of Walsall on the outskirts of Pelsall. small world isn't it

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[geartron99]

I now have suspension controller problems!!! after 3 sets of sensors going down since it was new.. it now needs the main controller box..rear end is very low and front end has gone to highest setting booked in for
work tomorrow will keep you posted

2004 amazon 36,000 miles

[realspeed]

Geartron

Sounds as if all you need now is a set of wings,a runway and you can pretend your in a plane about to take off.

To be honest with vehicles costing this amount of money, no matter how often the faults are corrected, they just shouldn't occur in the first place.

Ok car new or second hand get faults, but reading here and elsewhere on Lexus sites as well, it seems this sensor problem is bigger than Toyota expected and surely there should be a recall announced.

For one I would applaud Toyota for admitting there was a problem, putting their hands up and at least writing to all known owners to bring the cars in for correction, even if it was done dealership area by area.

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[Grimbo]

Hi , just spent a couple of weeks weighing up the pro's an cons of swapping my 80 for the rather tastey 50th anniversary 100 as advertised on E thingey. In the end mainley due to this and several other posts I've decided to stick with old faithful, the wife and I plan on several long trips to the remoter parts of europe, and just can't chance having the susspension have a turn whilst miles from anywhere. It's a real shame that Toyota don't seem to be able to fix this issue as the 100 would be much nicer to travel in, just has that reliabilty worry. Wish toyota could convince me, as i would change like a shot otherwise. , wife wants to change her car now

[geartron99]

Things arnt looking good..still havnt got car/plane back
My local toyota garage have changed sensors,controller unit,suspension spheres!!! and its still going crazy lifting up and down at will
One thing i am impressed with is the amount of travel that these vehicles have!! not that that helps atm.
Will post again when i know anything

[DaveN]

I don't know what it is with adjustable suspension, it never seems to go right. I looked at a new Disco (I know, I know) but only the basic one comes with regular suspension. When I asked the sales guy about suspension problems, he shrugs his shoulders and says never heard of it. Go round the back of the workshop and there is a bunch of new discos and rangies sat on their bump stops waiting for suspension parts!

[Grimbo]

Dave, your right its not only toyota that suffers with suspension probs, the older P38 rangies were a *beep* for it. As a matter of interest i phoned Toyota customer services today, and sugested that someone from Toyota had a look at this site, and maybe posts some kind of reply. Won't hold my breath though! it must be really hurting their reputation and is affecting S/H sales and prices and new sales to. Thing is world wide the uk sales must be a very small %. Perhaps they should start importing the 100 that use's the older 80 type running gear and 12v engine, quite a market for that i susspect in light of current issues.

[DaveN]

People don't want a proper truck anymore. As long as it looks like a real off-roader, that's all they need.

I had a soft dash Range Rover with air suspension and that never worked properly. In the end I converted it to normal springs and dampers. It drove just the same, just sunk a bit with a big load. But who carries a big load? Mind you, the suspension was just one of a number of problems with that thing. At least with the LC, I can leave it in the garage for 3 weeks, and it will start and everything will work when needed. That old rangie fell apart at the seams, everytime I went to use it something packed up. Ha, opened the sunroof, then it wouldn't shut. Turned the wipers on and they didn't. Turn the heater on and it dumped the coolant in the footwells. ABS pump broke. Head gaskets went, couldn't get the exhaust manifold studs out of the head. Fuel tank rusted through. Rear X member rusted out. Sills rusted out. Tailgate all warped. Pinion seals leaked every week. It seemed like everytime something was repaired, 2 more things got broken. But it did drive much better than the LC!!

[Grimbo]

Thats the shame of it all, can't be rocket science to get a good ride, landrover did it after-all. The Japs are normaly so good, they just can't get the suspension thing.

[dimensions]

Since we had the sensors and gas cylinders replaced in March we had hoped this problem was sorted. Through holidays and illness we have not been using the Amazon much and I was dismayed to find that we are once again living with a bucking bronco. The rear end is on max height but the dash light says all is normal!
What is Toyota doing? As someone else said. With a product that is this expensive it should not have these problems, and if it does, then the manufacturer should come clean. No way would we recommend Toyota now.

[imprator]

Sorry to see the problems you are all having.

I had the same problem on a 1999 LC about 3 years ago, and again about 3 months ago, so it doesn't seem to be something that is limited to recent vehicles.

In my case the first occurrence was caused by water ingress in the rear sensor. The recent problem was again caused by sensor failure, but this time the sensors were dry and uncorroded inside; there was no obvious reason for their failure. On both occasions replacement sensors fixed things (one sensor for the first occurrence and 3 sensors for the second).

The local dealers were very efficient on each occasion. They fixed things first time and eplacement sensors were obtained from Toyota GB immediately. Perhaps the design has changed and only the newer sensors are in short supply?

It is very disappointing to see that Toyota has still not sorted out these suspension problems - or at least had not done so prior to 2005 vehicles. I will probably be replacing my current LC shortly and will be looking to buy a vehicle which is a year or so old. If I go for a LC I really don't want one which may be subject to this problem. Does anyone know whether things are OK on vehicles sold from 2005 on? Did the suspension specification change, or will 2005 vehicles start having the same problems in the next few months?

Any advice will be welcome. If things haven't changed I might be forced to buy a Range Rover - or something even more German! Those new Audi Q7's look interesting...

[GrahamW]

Although my 2004 vehicle has had no problems in this area I thought it prudent to speak to my local dealer. I have the benefit of knowing the service manager personally. He reliably informs me that the Toyota have increased the warranty on this item to 100.000 miles
Hope this helps

[Grimbo]

Bet they don't advertise that fact, it will be a " fix as fail" type of rework with only those rich enough to afford main dealer prices able to take advantage. Seems a recall and rework of all vehicles will give us all confidence in the product/ support from Toyota.

[FrankyJ]

Did no realise this prob was so big. This is my second LC, and must admit the ride is quite poor exactly because of issues outlined here. I took it into the Wolves dealer who came back with 'no fault found'. Now i have seen this site will try again.

[dovboy]

 i joined this site to find out info on the lc before i bought one but now i'm not so sure,any word on a recall yet?
surely if the suspension goes hard this would make it very dangerous to drive on a wet greasy road